March 12, 2008




From: Pastor D.R.S.


Hi Guys,

As we get ready for our radio program, it's important for us to iron out as completely a few of the objections our protagonists might raise.

(1) We need to nail down the prophecies regarding the Syro-Phoenician war - which we are insisting will prompt the Treaty of Hell and Death. We're a little shaky here. Can we firm it up a bit?

(2) The Gog/Magog War (Ezekiel 38 - 39) - which we will be insisting follows the Treaty of Hell and Death (Daniel 9:27; Isaiah 28:15, 18) and, consequently, occurs after the Tribulation has begun. If that’s the case, how can we account for the seven years required to burn the refuse left behind by this war? Of course, we can extend it beyond the Tribulation as such - into the 30 days following and perhaps into the 75 days following. But it's still a bit shaky to suggest that during the second half of the Tribulation the Jews, who will then be caught up in panic and fear and fighting for their lives, will find the time to bury the dead - even if they are so inclined - which is itself a bit doubtful.

Pastor D.R.S.


Dear Pastor S. –


Since your focus appears to be fixated upon the chronological consequences of having the destroyed weaponry of the Gog-Magog War scattered upon the mountains/hills of the Middle East (most, apparently in either Syria or certainly Israel proper) - and, although you have rightly advised that (1) the 7-year time frame (Ezekiel 39:9-10) is extended into the 1,290th day (Daniel 12:11) and possibly the 1,335th day (Daniel 12:12) - and, as well, you have surmised that collecting this debris and using a good deal of it for fuel in the midst of at least "Jacob's Trouble" (Daniel 12:1) would be a bit frightful and somewhat difficult - then what are we to do with this seemingly incongruous affair which (i.e., the Gog-Magog War) apparently occurs after the Treaty of Hell and Death has initiated the Seventieth Week of Daniel's prophecy (Daniel 9:27), etc.?

Also, be it abundantly clear from the commencement of our discussions - there are clearly delineated throughout the Biblical texts of prophetic import THREE distinct conflicts:

(1)  The WAR - The Arab-Israel Conflict - culminating in the ORACLE OF DAMASCUS or BURDEN OF DAMASCUS which occurs prior to the 70th Week of Daniel (Dan. 9:26).

(2)  The GOG-MAG WAR - Which occurs relatively soon or perhaps immediately after the commencement of the 70th Week of Daniel which commences as a result of the "Treaty of Hell and Death" between "the many" of Israel and the Antichrist or the "prince who is to come." (Daniel 9:27; Ezekiel 38:1 through Ezekiel 39:16)

(3)  The FINAL CONFLICT - The Battle of Armageddon - Ezekiel 39:17-20; Revelation 16:12-16 - the Sixth bowl, as well as Revelation 9:13-21 at the "overlapping" time frame of the Sixth Trumpet; culminating in the 2nd coming of Christ on the 1,290th Day of Daniel 12:11 and confirmed by both Revelation 11:15-19 and the blowing of the 7th Trumpet which persists from the 1,260th day throughout the entire 30-days of Dan. 12:11 until the 1,290th day when Christ returns in glory--Revelation 19:11-21 and confirmed by Ezekiel 39:17-20.

Before I commence with the writing of John Walvoord on this subject - it behooves us to review the FACT that it is imperative that Israel be in the land in "unwalled villages" - these are NOT simply kibbutzim as some in vain contemplate - it is precisely, I believe, in reference to the current WALL surrounding Israel's "uncontested lands" in order to protect her against terrorism - likewise, she must be "dwelling in peace" - that "peace" is ill-conceived without the completion of THE WAR as mentioned in Daniel 9:26 - "end of the war."  That WAR - which is not the subject (although you have requested it be of this exchange, as well) is the Oracle or Burden of Damascus of both Zechariah 9 and Isaiah 17-18

Suffice it to say--Israel is dwelling in a relative PEACEFUL environment (Ezekiel 38:11) and that "peace process/period" occurs at the conclusion of "the war" and it is BETWEEN the conclusion of this war and the signing of the "Treaty of Hell and Death" (the infamous treaty with Antichrist) that both the wall will come down and there will be this seemingly euphoric sense of peace in the land confirmed by Antichrist's ultimate treaty--that time frame is unresolved; however, I could conjecture it is of sufficient "space" to produce this "peaceful and unwalled" environment in Israel proper.

Well - may I commence with the reading of John Walvoord's resolution to the enigma:

(From P. 197 of his text:  Prophecy Knowledge Handbook - Prophecy in Ezekiel) -

"The figure of seven years introduces some problems as it affects the location of this war in the end-time events because it pictures Israel at peace and in safety (38:8; 39:6) (My Note:  Precisely - as a result of the Oracle of Damascus (Zechariah 9, Isaiah 17-18) and subsequent SEVEN-YEAR PEACE of Antichrist!).  The burning of the fuel is not a prophetic event but only a statement of the amount of debris.  A number of expositors have located this war in the first half of the last seven years leading up to the Second Coming (My Note:  As have we!).  The first half of the seven years will be a period of peace because of the covenant entered into between Israel and the Gentile ruler of that period (Dan. 9:27) (Precisely – and leading to my conclusion that this “peace” is only disturbed at the commencement of the 70th Week for a very brief period of time—see my analysis later on.).  The problem of the fuel lasting seven years, however, is not a real prophetic problem because EVEN AFTER THE LORD RETURNS THEY WILL STILL NEED FUEL FOR FIRES IN THE MILLENNIAL KINGDOM AS LIFE GOES ON (My Emphasis—although the burning of this fuel does NOT, I believe, extend into the Millennial Age).  Accordingly, the seven-year figure should not be considered an obstacle to placing the war somewhere in the middle of the last seven years (which we have done as well – but more so at the commencement of the 70th Week - but before the Abomination of Desolation) with the possibility that it may occur earlier in the seven-years period (which we have most definitely done) and justify the approximate figure of seven years  (Note:  The "dead bodies" take but 7 months to clean up - Ezekiel 39:11-16 - and MAY indicate that AFTER these bodies are so "cleansed from the land" AND after the Temple Mount area is likewise CLEANSED - then there will be from the time (which I calculate will be on the FEAST OF DEDICATION - FEAST OF HANUKKAH (December)) precisely 1,010 days PRIOR to the actual ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION (the midst of Daniel's 70th Week) and an additional 1,290 days beyond this mid-point of DESOLATIONS WILL CONTINUE until the actual coming of Christ to the earth (after the Church has been raptured on the 1,260th day and then the 30 days of the Wrath of the Lamb) and then the final 35 days wherein there is (1) the Judging of the Nations and (2) the repentance of Israel (their "blessedness").

I think we can gather from this information from Dr. Walvoord a most simplistic resolution to our insurmountable problem?  Of course - now, however, I am greatly intrigued by these calculations in that the issue of "CLEANSING" of the dead bodies of this conflict COULD be directly connected to the inauguration of the sacerdotal rites 250 days into the first half of the 70th Week of Daniel.


If, in point of possible fact, it takes 7 months to "cleanse the land" - and perhaps prepare the Temple Mount (Note:  Temple Cleansing/Construction could actually take place "informally" prior to the signing of the 7-year pact by Antichrist which will, obviously, FORMALIZE the arrangement of the building of the sanctuary) - it is, therefore, noteworthy to calculate, by using the 30-month prophetic calendar used in these matters (e.g., 1,260 days ./. 30-days = 3.5 years) we have the following:  7 months = 210 days (7 months x 30-day prophetic month = 210 days) - therefore, we have the following POSSIBILITY in calculating the precise timing of the Gog-Magog War within the first half of Daniel's 70th Week:

250 Days (the precise starting time for the commencement of the sacerdotal rites which will last for 1,010 days to the midst of the 70th Week @ the Abomination of Desolation) - This 250 days must be, because there are precisely 2,300 days from:  (1) the daily sacrifices; and (2) the transgression of desolation; and (3) the giving of both the sanctuary and the host to be trampled underfoot - in other words the 2,300-day calculation commences from the initiation of the sacerdotal rites until the end of the desolation--PRECISELY 2,300 days in fulfillment of BOTH Daniel 8:13-14 and of Daniel 12:11

Now, knowing that there will be a time frame of 7 months or 210 days to cleanse the land of these dead bodies (and perhaps the Temple Mount area as well prior to the Feast of Hanukkah and the 1,010 days of sacrifice until the Abomination of Desolation - we are ADVISED TO CONCLUDE that QUITE POSSIBLY from the time the Treaty is enforced upon "the many" until the commencement and/or finality of the Gog/Magog War there will be precisely 40 days.

I arrive at this figure as follows:  250 - 210 = 40 days (i.e., the 40-days wherein the Gog-Magog War would transpire.

Thence, this FIGURE OF JUDGMENT (for "40" is the figure in biblical numerology for judgment - 40 days and 40 nights the flood - 40 years in the wilderness, etc.) would be FIGURATIVELY appropriate for judgment upon Gog/Magog from the Treaty of Hell and Death until the judgment of Gog-Magog!

Then after these 40 days - and who is to know if the Gog-Magog conflict is either a one-day affair or throughout the entire 40-day period from the signing of the treaty (which conflict could possibly PRECIPITATE the conflict itself) - its conclusion, however, by the 40th day of the 70th Week of Daniel would be appropriate in that there would have to be these 7-months to "cleanse the land" of the dead bodies, etc. - the fuel issue is non sequitur.

In point of glaring fact - Antichrist's designs to save Israel - to be her protector could easily and more appropriately find its justification as a result of an immense military buildup against Israel - the TRIGGER for the commencement of the Gog-Magog ACTUAL MILITARY EXCHANGE would be the same day that the treaty is concluded!

This 40-day period of judgment and the subsequent 7-month or 210-days of "cleansing the land" (Ezekiel 39:9) brings us clearly to the 250th day + 2,300 days (days of both the sanctuary's sacerdotal rites (1,010 days) and the days from the Abomination of Desolation until their conclusion on the 1,290th day or 1,010 + 1,290 = 2,300 days).  I've covered much of these time frames/chronologies in my text:  ISRAEL'S TEMPLE SACRIFICE AND THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION.

However, I am "delightfully convinced" that these new chronological discoveries are most amazing in that they also hold within them the significance of biblical numerology as well.

If indeed, we consider, as well, that 7 years are utilized for FUEL and general cleaning up of the debris - and that such purging of the land in this manner would commence at the same time that the dead bodies are purged from the land - then, there is a new calculation which comes into play!

That calculation - though apparently "miscellaneous" at this juncture of "discovery" – ultimately may be quite profound - the Bible does not throw out such calculations at random!

When would this 7-year time frame commence for FUEL?  It would begin at the same time the dead bodies are purged from the land or on the 40th day of the 70th Week of Daniel and extend throughout the 70th Week of Daniel into the 10th Day of the 45 days during which there is the Judgment of the Nations and Israel's recognition and acceptance of Messiah (10-days after his return or 10 days beyond the 1,290th day) - leaving an additional 30 days prior to the commencement and re-dedication of the Temple and the Messianic Era.  Thus, there is absolutely no problem of "millenarian interference" of this FUEL issue for it would conclude before the time of the commencement of the Millenarian period of 1,000-year rule and reign of the Son of David on the earth and Israel wholly fulfilled in her prophetic panoply of promises.

I do not find it incompatible for "survival" for the Jews during the time of "Jacob's Trouble" to find a somewhat miraculous provision of fuel "here and there" in order to sustain the believing remnant as well as those of Abraham's seed to prophetically fulfill their reception of Messiah!

There are a multitude of chronological possibilities set in the backdrop of these 40 days prior to the 7-month clean up of the "corpses" - "corpses" which the Jews are wont to immediately dispense with according to their traditions; however, the "multitude" of "bodies" appears staggering - therefore, 7-months of purging is not out of the question.

The 7-years of FUEL commencing at the time of the CLEANSING of the dead bodies brings us within the special 45-days of Messiah's judgment of the nations (Daniel 12:12 and the "sheep and goat nations" - Matthew 25:31-34) and Israel's repentance/recognition (Zechariah 12:10-14) - which I call the UNVEILING OF THE SON OF MAN akin to Joseph's unveiling of himself to his brethren in Egypt.

In summation - I am growingly convinced that the Gog-Magog War will be:


(1) precipitated and/or commenced at the signing of the Treaty of Hell and Death

(2) "officially terminate" within the 40-days from the commencement of that enforcement/treaty - allowing there to be 7-months in which the bodies are purged from the land from that conflict in preparation of the 250th day and the official commencement of the sacerdotal rites which, if PASSOVER marks the commencement of the 70th Week of Daniel/The Treaty of Hell and Death - and, in accordance with the Jewish calendar the only 250-day time frame from Passover Feast Day until another significant Feast Day, would place the dedication on HANUKKAH (approximately April until December - PRECISELY 250 days on the Jewish Calendar) - allowing for the traditional RE-DEDICATION OF THE TEMPLE day - as well as the precise 2,300 days of BOTH the sacerdotal rites so commenced and the end of desolations on the 1,290th day in fulfillment of Daniel 8:13-14 and Daniel 12:11 - as well as in keeping with the overwhelming confirmations scattered throughout Daniel chapters 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 dealing with the sanctuary, sacrifice, desolations/abominations, etc. - my articles entitled:  "Jesus Christ Does the Work of Antichrist? - A Perfectly Timed Heresy Says Who?"  and "Israel's Prophetic Witness - 'To Finish the Transgression...and to Anoint the Most Holy.'"

I hope I have not bored you to tears - I appear somewhat enthralled over these chronological, prophetic precisions only in that they substantiate the divine inspiration of the text and confirm that knowledge of God's prophetic purposes shall increase and become great in the end of days (Daniel 12:4 - Amplified Version).

We shall prolong our discussion of the Oracle of Damascus and the "end of the war" at a later date; hopefully, in time and prior to the actual fulfillment of the Burden of Damascus!

Doug Krieger




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